
And we would kind of use the stuff you just bought, as you can almost say, like a treat of sorts. And we would hand it to you when you got close enough to the front door, and out the front door, you would walk. So that started to make stores look a little bit more empty, people less intimidated to walk in. And I got to deploy that in about 300 stores-plus worldwide, which was really exciting. And a lot of people still do this to this, they all still use that system to this day except now we have iPads and iPhones and other cool things.
CAROLINE: That's amazing.
RYAN: Right? And it was fun because I got to work directly with Ron Johnson. Ron Johnson was the ex-CEO of Target. He's the reason that Targets are really cool and not really awful. A lot of people don't remember that Target used to be really bad.
CAROLINE: Oh really?
RYAN: And then Ron came along. Oh yeah, Target was like a dingy, dark place. It was like a Walmart minus, right? Some other things.
CAROLINE: That's crazy.
RYAN: Yeah, everybody forgets that. And he came in, deleted half the aisles, marked up the prices by 30%, and made really bright lights. And that's what you know today. You know that Target is the nice place to go. And it's brilliant. Yeah, they were really struggling at one point in time, and he really flipped that around.